model 1857 six line rifle musket

Eligible for FREE shipping *. 67, The M1856/69 Russian Krnka is another unique variety of lifting breech block conversion of muzzleloader to breech loader. WebThe rifle has a 34 1/8 long barrel rifled with four grooves and measures .702 which is the nomial French standard of the era, .708 caliber. Tags: Case: Straight-rimmed center-fire brass case loaded with 5.07 grams of black powder. Russian military setbacks during the early-mid 19th century forced the Russians to adopt somewhat reduced bore muskets with rifled barrels, leading the adoption the M1856 and related M1858 "6-Line" (.60 caliber) rifles. The breech was opened by pivoting a steel block to the left. The most obvious identifiable factors of the Krnka Dragoon rifle are its sling slots, and its shorter, rounded, knobby hammer, which is immediately noticeably different from that of the two long rifles. The conversion maintains its original back action lock but the original hammer is replaced with a very simple flat hammer-like striker (resembling a hammer with its head horizontal rather than vertical) to strike the firing pin fitted longitudinally through the breech-block. Brown Target Sharpshooter / Sniper Rifle 26 1855 Joslyn Rifle Single-Shot Carbine / Rifle Long Arm 27 1863 Lindsay Model 1863 U.S. This was specifically a result of the disbelief of the authorities in the infantryman's ability to hit targets at a long distance. Even as to Russian produced rifles, the armories also bought locks and other parts from other sources which may account for different markings. $40.00. WebThe "a bolt action rifle must be an accurate sniper" stereotype is so stupid, I guarantee that a modern battle rifle is more accurate than a hundred years old bolt action service rifle. Krnka rifle, both the Infantry ( ) and the Marksmans ( ) versions M1869: Infantry - 200 paces (142 m; 156 yds) to 600 paces (428 m; 467 yards). Note the octagonal coupling fitted between the barrel and receiver of these correct Russian Dragoon Krnkas. In fact, the only example that I could find for sale recently is not in materially better condition but is priced $1,000 higher than this gun! In 1854, the Russians started rifling and sighting existing stocks of M1845 muskets, but this was too little too late and few of the rifled arms reached the troops in the Crimea before the end of the war. Web0.54 in (14 mm) Action. The stock shows several grain cracks, including a pair that run through the bottom of the action diagonally, emanating from the triggerguard area, a diagonal crack along the counterpane and a tight grain crack behind the breech tang. The bore of the rifle remains in VERY GOOD condition as well. This number was only the serial number of the breech assembly. WebThe M1867 Russian Krnka was a breech loading conversion of the muzzle-loading Model 1857 Six Line rifle musket designed by Czech arms maker, Sylvester Krnka. Like most of the other cartridge alterations to military rifles during the late 1860s and early 1870s, the Krnka was a stop gap solution until a better system could be adopted. It has no sling swivels but rather ferrule reinforced slots half-way up the forestock and through the buttstock. A diuym had been established as being equal to an English inch by Peter the Great, thus a liniya was 1/10, and six liniya was 6/10 or .60 caliber. WebIn 1858. a new production line with 28 skilled workers under the guidance of Mihailo Cveji was set up for converting some 15.000 old flintlock muskets to percussion system: in the first year only some 1,800 rifles were converted, then the production increased to 1.000 addapted rifles a month, so by 1863. It retains strong rifling and shows scattered light pitting and some frosting along its length. It retains strong rifling and shows scattered light pitting and some frosting along its length. The stock shows the most wear and tear, having been lightly sanded and leaving the two cartouches only shadows of their former selves. In 1845, the Russians adopted a new percussion musket, officially leaving the flintlock system behind. The action of the rifle remains in crisp, fully functional condition with all of the various pieces of the mechanism appearing to function correctly. It might be worth investing in some injected glue stabilization at some point to keep the gun from deteriorating in the future. Overall this is a solid, complete and attractive example of an extremely rare Russian Model 1856/67 Krnka Rifle. The so-called "fortress guns" over time were quite widely used to defeat manpower behind shelters and protective structures. The metal shows even pinpricking and light pitting over most of the iron and steel surfaces, and the barrel and bands have a medium pewter gray patina with a thinly oxidized layer of brownish patina over this gray color along with a few patches of scattered oxidized discoloration. The steel lower tang does not have the prominent finger spur of the rifles but rather only a very small bump. Note that the Model 1860 6-Line Cossack rifle is another matter as Russian sources state that it was primarily purchased for the Cossacks from German and Belgian factories, although Russian Imperial examples were manufactured, as was the example noted above. Contemporary drawing of the Krnka rifle which also illustrates the Krnka Cartridge's Berdan roots, esp it's Berdan design primer. In this case, the elite-and light units will have the Mini rifled musket, while normal line infantry will have the model 1757 smoothbore Two considerations came into play: firstly, by the time of the adoption of the Krnka conversion of Russia's large stores of percussion muzzle loaders, the 4.2 line (10.75mm) Berdan I cartridge had already been proven and adopted, and secondly, Col. Berdan's early metallic cartridge conversion rifles (notably the Spanish Berdan series) had seen success utilizing his .577 Berdan cartridge. World Wars - Military (Other than edged weapons), Exceptionally Rare Russian M1856/67 Krnka Rifle, Exceptional National Armory Brown Springfield Model 1822 (1816 Type II) Flintlock Musket, Extremely Scarce and Fine Suhl 1861 Springfield Rifle Musket by Christian Funk, Rare Percussion Sharps Carbine and Rifle Combination Tool. As the Russian arms of the period were not fully interchangeable, assembly numbers were stamped throughout the guns. In America, the solution was Erskine Allins Trapdoor system, in England it was the Snider conversion and in France it was the Tabatire. Lockplate of a Russian M1856/69 & M1858/69 Krnka Infantry Rifle. The rifles cartridge consisted of a compound sleeve made of brass tape with an inner cup. M1856, The Russian conversion to the Krnka breech was a refinement of the M1865/66 Krnka rifle which had just previously been adopted by Montenegro. Other Pictures: Obr.1867 Krnka Infantry Rifle. Lockplate Complete w/ Hammer, 1857/69 Carbine. The best current theory as to their origins is that these well-made rifles are later Bulgarian adaptations from Russian Krnkas supplied to them. This decision, and these sights, would carry over to the conversions of the rifles into M1869 Krnkas, although after the disappointing performance (to be kind) of the Krnkas against the Turks in the 10th Russo-Turkish War (1877-1878. This is deliberate, so that in the event of a jammed firing pin, given the weak firing pin retraction spring, this allows the cleaning rod to be used to push the firing pin back into battery. Astonishingly, the Krnka was officially adopted in March of 1869. Predecessor Rifle(s): M1856 and M1858 Six Line Infantry Musket, This pictured rifle is a M1858 6-Line Infantry rifle, the M1856 6-Line Marksman rifle is identical except for a longer rear sight leaf. The Model 1873 was particularly successful, being marketed by the manufacturer as 'The Gun that Won the In 1856, the Russians adopted their first rifled long arm of reduced bore for general issue to the infantry, the Model 1856 or Six Line Rifle. The original Swiss Federal Rifle pattern rear sight, graduated to 1,200 paces remains in place and is fully functional, and what appears to be the original sling swivels are present on the front bow of the triggerguard and the middle barrel band. M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Credit: M1858/69 Russian Krnka Infantry rifle ( ), As the Ottoman empire was breaking up, France, Great Britain and Russia all had interests in its territories. The stock shows the most wear and tear, having been lightly sanded and leaving the two cartouches only shadows of their former selves. Eligible for FREE shipping * Lockplate, Stripped. The new design retained the French-style back action lock of the earlier M1845 muskets, which was retained by a single lock screw that passed through the front of the lock, screwing into a rounded triangular escutcheon on the counterpane and by a single spanner screw at the tail of the lock. WebThe M1867 Russian Krnka. condition. Photo Credit: User Nick Stanav viawww.gunboards.com/forums. The buttplate of the gun is stamped on the bottom with the serial number 57135, which was the original percussion musket serial number. Therefore an octagonal steel coupling is fitted between the receiver and barrel in order to make this connection, forming a sort of knoxform, but this piece is separate, and not a part of the barrel. which had a shorter barrel of 863 mm and a rear sight with range calibrated to 800 steps (568 m).We have been wholly unable to find any photo or drawing of the The M1859 Dragoon Rifle ( 1859 .). Romania: It is believed by Balkan researchers that Romania also acquired surplus Russian Krnka rifles, but we have not been able to verify this. The lock plate is marked with manufacturers marking which may be Russian arsenal or foreign manufactured. This sub-assembly number appears on the bottom of the barrel and on the right side of all of the barrel bands as well. Four distinct examples of Russian 6-Line. The metal shows even pinpricking and light pitting over most of the iron and steel surfaces, and the barrel and bands have a medium pewter gray patina with a thinly oxidized layer of brownish patina over this gray color along with a few patches of scattered oxidized discoloration. Double Rifle Twin-Shot Musket Long Gun 28 1854 WebA scarce Russian Model 1857/66 Krnka breechloading conversion rifle Serial no. Krnka, WebBelgian model 1857 percussion musket, approximately .70 caliber, back action lock inscribed A & CH De Loneux Liege, with walnut stock and several cartouches, sling swivels, 40 1/2" barrel. The first man-portable, large-caliber, rifled guns first appeared in much earlier than tanks and armored vehicles. They were first used in defense of, and later in the assault on fortresses. Watch. The Six Line percussion rifle musket remained the mainstay of the Russian infantry for a decade. Even as early as 1867, Russians Colonel AP Gorlov and Captain KI Ginnis, together with American Colonel Hiram Berdan, were already well into the development of a smaller caliber (10.75mm "4.2 line") rifle with its associated modern brass cartridge, although it was still at least a year before it would be acquired and fielded, and then in small numbers. Is anyone able to help me decipher this cartouche? The striker is struck by the rifles new hammer which is mated to the existing M1856 back-action lock mechanism. The breech block is marked with the serial number, on the left side and on the interior of the swinging breech door. In August, 1869, the Krnka Dragoon rifle was approved and these were effectuated by re-converting the Terri-Norman converted rifles to Krnka systems, thus unlike the Carl system rifles, none of the former ever went into service or distribution. In 1856, the Russians adopted their first rifled long arm of reduced bore for general issue to the infantry, the. Muzzle velocity when fired from the Marksman & Infantry rifles: Russian 6-Line muzzle-loading rifles were manufactured at all three Imperial weapons factories, It is estimated that some 620,000 or more Krnka conversions of various Russian 6-Line rifles were produced during this period, After the re-equipment of the Russian army with modern, As a side note, Russia also provided Bulgaria with 15,000 captured Snider rifles presumably. )/66 Krnka) for conversion of a breechloader. Photo Credit: User Nick Stanav via. The Treaty of San Stefano (1878) ending the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, provided for the formation of a Bulgarian self-governing principality with a zemstvo (locally governed Czarist Russian province) army. $175.77. 28 1/2 inch barrel with adjustable rear sight and marked at the breech with Condition Request Condition Report Overall good condition, heavy pitting to exterior of barrel and metal, handling marks to stock. Failing to make any gains in Europe, during the late 1800s Russia turned toward the east, expanding Russian territory during this period and eventually bringing Russia and Japan into intense competition, and eventual war in 1905. This same assembly mating number from the alteration process appears on the top of the buttplate, on the top of the barrel, inside the lock, inside the barrel channel of the stock, on the right side of all three barrel bands, on the long range sight base and on the cleaning rod (ramrod). Bulgaria: The Russian Krnka rifles were also supplied by Russia to, and adopted by, Bulgaria and Serbia, at the time vassel states of Russia. above. Product #: 1940170. The right side of the breech block is numbered with the conversion number, . The Russians only ever converted their 6-Line rifles to the three models of Krnkas referenced above, the M1856/69 Krnka Marksman (or sharpshooter) rifle, the M1858 Infantry rifle and the M185(? Initial muzzle velocity was 349 m/s. The upper sling swivel of the infantry rifle is affixed on the bottom of the center screw-retained barrel band, the lower swivel mounting just ahead of the trigger guard in the manner of French rifles of the day. With the British entry into the war, the Russians soon found out that their conscript infantry was woefully under armed with their large caliber smoothbore percussion and percussion conversion muskets. The brass buttstock is shaped differently from that of the long rifles and has a only a very minimal buttstock tang. Lockplate of a foreign-purchased Russian M1856 or M1858 6-Line rifle subsequently converted to M1869 Krnka that has been re-altered to a short rifle the same dimensions as a Russian M1869 Dragoon rifle. We believe that to be unlikely. As this is an Indian Rebellion-era piece in NRA Antique Very Good condition with its original ramrod, it will bring something of a premium over later P53s that were much more common. These guns are scarce in Russia and are practically never seen for sale in America. Quite rare possible Confederate use period copy of the P1853 rifle musket and made by various Spanish armories as well as well known Birmingham makers such as this one is. Please let me know!! About the Czech rifleman's rifle, which was re-armed by the tsarist army and which in 1878 definitively put an end to the Turkish threat to Europe. WebThe design of the rifle. Quite rare Photo Credit:Guns.ru/forums.html. The M1855 rifle-musket was the first U.S. regulation arm to use the .58-cal. The gun is marked with a plethora of pre-revolutionary Cyrillic orthography and markings, as well as a dizzying array of serial and mating numbers. This same pattern of rear sight had also been specified when the Russians placed a large order for percussion altered rifled-muskets from Colt during the Crimean War. About its production, packaging and combat distribution to units. The action of the rifle remains in crisp, fully functional condition with all of the various pieces of the mechanism appearing to function correctly. Contemporary drawing of the M1867 Russian Baranov rifle. Model: 1857 PERCUSSION MUSKET RIFLE. 68909, 15.2mm. The two rear sight leaves found on Krnkas are are the short (35 mm; 1.4-inch) elevating leaf correctly found on the full-length Krnka M1858/69 Infantry rifle, and the longer 70 mm (2.7 in) leaf found on the Krnka M1856/69 Marksmans rifle. This M1858 6-Line rifle originally built in 1864 by the large, Belgium, Liege gunmaker Auguste Francotte & Cie (company), has been converted to a M1858 Krnka.. Photo Credit: https://cornet.cc/ru/artikul/123916/russkaia-skorostrelnaia-6-lineinaia-vintovka-obr-1869-g-sist-krnka/. After the re-equipment of the Russian army with modern M1870 Berdan II rifles, Bulgaria was supplied with an additional number of Krnka rifles and cartridges. This same assembly mating number from the alteration process appears on the top of the buttplate, on the top of the barrel, inside the lock, inside the barrel channel of the stock, on the right side of all three barrel bands, on the long range sight base and on the cleaning rod (ramrod). The cleaning rods of the underlying rifles were retained by being locked in place at the shoulder in a manner, for example, identical to that of the British Martini-Henry. Revised March 17, 1999 Nikolas persecuted large segments of his population, suppressed publications, forbade foreign travel and generally tried to eliminate progressive thinking and reverse the westernization of Russia. Florida drew 100 on its 1860 allotment and a Georgia adjutant general report dated Feb. 26, 1861 indicated the state had received 1,225 M1855s. She extended Russian territorial gains through additional conquest,, making Imperial Russia one of the great European powers. Photos Courtesy ofhttps://collegehillarsenal.com/. In 1857, 100 Colt rifles were purchased and sent to the U.S. troops for field service. Catherine continued westernizing Russia, introduced French culture into Russia and greatly improved education of the Russian nobility. It is full-length and fully threaded at the end. Personal research and by an expert show that all proof marks are marching. The stock shows some scattered bumps, dings and handling marks; all typical of a military long arm, as well as some minor slivering along the forend and ramrod channel. Also, the stock was narrower than other 6-line rifles. Like the earlier flintlock muskets, the M1845 was a large bore (nominally .71 caliber) smoothbore, single shot muzzleloading long arm. An interesting feature of the Dragoon rifle which, for obvious reasons is not present on the Infantry and Marksman Krnkas, is that because the barrel was shortened from the donor/parent rifle at the breach, not from the muzzle, the newly threaded shortened barrel would not fit into standard Krnka receivers. The striker is struck by the rifles new hammer which is mated to the existing M1856 back-action lock mechanism. M1860 Cossack 6-Lline rifle Photo Credit: This rifle, the M1860 Cossack 6-Line rifle, was never converted to the Krnka system. I. , 1938. All shorter Krnka rifles are either Bulgarian conversions for special-troop use, or locally altered post-service for civilian use. The obverse butt is stamped with two illegible cartouches, the weakest likely the original percussion production cartouche and the slightly more legible one the mark applied after the alteration. B.E. Our research regarding the conversion and manufacturing of the Krnka system conversion rifles is, well, admittedly confusing. View Item in Catalog Lot #811 (Sale Order: 811 of 952) Sold for: $375.00 to onsite "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium not included. The competition boiled down to that between the simpler Krnka and the more sophisticated Baranov. The barrel was shortened by 15 cm and fired a lighter bullet but still managed to remain the same accuracy while dramatically increasing effective range from 213 meters out to 853 meters. The new design retained the French-style back action lock of the earlier M1845 muskets, which was retained by a single lock screw that passed through the front of the lock, screwing into a rounded triangular escutcheon on the counterpane and by a single spanner screw at the tail of the lock. Photo Credit: M1869 Krnka Dragoon lower barrel band. Peter the Greats rule, from 1696 until his death in 1725, was a great turning point in Russia when, by virtue of Peters reforms, a strong trend of European influence developed, gradually replacing the earlier influence of Byzantium and the Tartars. The Dragoon Krnka pictured here has a measured length of 1,225 mm (48.2 inches) with a 792 mm (31.2-inch) barrel. rifles were six-shot repeaters, while the wartime The Krnka system consists of a breech block pivoting from right to left, but otherwise somewhat similar to theSniderandFrench Tabatiresystems. Photos Courtesy ofhttps://collegehillarsenal.com/. Web1857 Smith Carbine Breech-Loaded Cavalry Carbine 22 1856 Springfield Model 1855 Muzzle-Loaded, Single-Shot Rifle-Musket 23 1858 Starr Model 1858 / Model 1863 Double-Action 6-Shot Percussion Revolver 24 1850 Stocking Model 1850 (Pepperbox) Six-Shot Compact Pistol 25 1855 Volcanic Arms Model 1855 Pistol-Carbine 26 1850 Washington : ; : , 2005. Add to Cart. 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