Shuttle. Tonnage: 83,673. Years indicate year of entry into Cunard service. The tourist-class cabins on D-Deck were always very warm despite every effort to provide adequate ventilation, and air-conditioning was urgently required. A/CPO Lornie Peter Barnard. Two thousand men were ferried out daily to work on the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY as she lay at anchor off Hong Kong. Kessler always maintained that the ship was the QUEEN ELIZABETH. On 8th May 1967, the axe finally fell and it was announced that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be withdrawn a year earlier than originally planned - in the Autumn of 1968 after a final summer on the Western Ocean. The only signs of White Star which remained were the buff funnels of the BRITANNIC and the GEORGIC. sails up the Hudson (the North River) to her berth at Pier 90. The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving the fitting-out berth at John Brown's. GGA Image ID # 1d3753c0c2, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Stateroom. At 3.pm the liner commenced her northward run over the Arran measured mile and covered the course in 2 minutes 1.3 seconds which gave an average speed of 29.71 knots. I have agreed in principle." WebThe RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. However another of the still operational boilers was badly damaged: she was now down to just three. In September 1959 an announcement was made to the effect that an independent committee of three, headed by Lord Chandos, had been set up to examine the Cunard Company's proposals for replacing the 'Queens'. Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. The 'Cassandra' column in the 'Daily Mirror' on 29th November 1961 was uncharacteristically enthusiastic about the QUEEN ELIZABETH. It is therefore possible, for example, to find records of deaths of soldiers and prisoners of war returning on ships from the Boer War. Despite the effectiveness of the new stabilisers to minimise rolling, nothing could be done to reduce the pitching. The two funnels were self-supporting and braced internally to give a cleaner-looking appearance. May 11 - 16 First time more than 10,000 persons had traveled on any ship (9,880 troops, 875 crew). The new ship weighed her bower anchor half an hour later and with a mean draught of 37 feet 9 inches slipped through the anti-submarine boom that stretched across the Clyde between the Gantock Rocks and the Cloch Lighthouse at 8.15am. The Clyde Navigation Trust indicated that the dredged channel in the Clyde would not be ready before the end of February 1940. In the event 600 tubes had to be changed and approval obtained from classification societies. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. Searchby ships official number in: There is also an index to Second World War log books, agreements and crew lists inBT 385. A fortnight later, on Monday 20th August 1945, the QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived in Southampton for the first time - four and a half years late. The remainder, lying on the harbour bed, was blown up as the wreck was a hazard to navigation. The new ship weighed her bower anchor half an hour later and with a mean draught of 37 feet 9 inches slipped through the anti-submarine boom that stretched across the Clyde between the Gantock Rocks and the Cloch Lighthouse at 8.15am. Use this guide for advice on how to find British merchant shipping records known as crew lists and agreements, originally known as muster books, and log books. The QUEEN ELIZABETH entering the King George V Dry Dock. The QUEEN ELIZABETH entering the King George V Dry Dock at Southampton, The QUEEN ELIZABETH was ready for her trials in early October and sailed for the Clyde on the sixth of the month. The certificate would then be given back to the seaman which is why they can be found in the personal collections of an individual or their family. These agreements had to be filed within 24 hours of the ships return to a UK port. The dock would have to be 124 feet wide at its entrance and have a minimum depth of 40 feet. The Americans demanded that the QUEEN ELIZABETH be brought up to the new standards of fire protection which would have to include the fitting of additional fire sprinklers and the boxing-in of stairways that could otherwise act as deadly draught tunnels in the event of fire. The submarine dived and the captain identified the ship as the QUEEN ELIZABETH. After a ghost-like voyage across the Atlantic the QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived off the Florida coast on Saturday 7th December 1968. Her master, Captain Ford, had attempted to avert the incident by ordering 'half-astern' on the starboard engines, but it was too late. In writing to Cammell Laird, Sir Percy said that he was not entirely confident that it could deal with such a large ship and that in particular they might not be able to move the ship into their fitting-out basin. One week later work resumed on '534'. Recently introduced legislation by the International Maritime Commission also influenced the board's decision. She first entered service in February 1940 as a troopship in the Second World War, and it was not until October 1946 that she served in her intended role as an ocean liner. It was reasoned, therefore, that if the passage time could be reduced to five days, it would be possible for two ships on a fortnightly service to do the work of three. They were logged at ports such as Madras and Bombay under the direction of the Serang or Headman of the port. Sums amounting to $100 million were freely bandied about in the coumns of newspapers as the cost of carrying G.I.s to and from the theatres of war. A southbound run produced a speed of 29.75 knots. [18] Initially she carried Australian troops to theatres of operation in Asia and Africa. It was controlled simply by the necessity to provide sufficient passenger accommodation and propulsion to operate a two-ship weekly express service across the North Atlantic. [21], The ship ran aground on a sandbank off Southampton on 14 April 1947, and was re-floated the following day. After a call at Rio de Janeiro, the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH was now equipped to carry 15,000 troops although the numbers were reduced to 12,000 in the winter months. To identify records held in local archives, searchour catalogueand refine your results using the filters. Cherbourg was chosen as the French port for the new ships as it had deeper water and a larger harbour than Le Havre. [32], After the fire, Tung had one of the liner's anchors and the metal letters "Q" and "E" from the name on the bow placed in front of the office building at Del Amo Fashion Center in Torrance, California, which had been intended as the headquarters of the Seawise University venture;[33][34] they later went on display with commemorative plaques in the lobby of Wall Street Plaza, 88 Pine Street, New York City. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. Christopher T Watts and Michael J Watts, My Ancestor Was a Merchant Seaman(Society of Genealogists, second edition with addendum, 2004), Simon Wills,Tracing Your Merchant Navy Ancestors(Pen & Sword, 2012), For quick pointersTuesday to Saturday The Japanese wanted her for a marine science museum in time for the 1970 Tokyo World Fair. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. Alternatively, searchThe National Archives library catalogueto see what is available to consult at Kew. [9] Elizabeth, as she was now called, arrived in Port Everglades on 8 December 1968 and opened to tourists in February 1969, well before Queen Mary, which opened two years later, in 1971. Another essential rule was that each man, regardless of rank, should wear or carry his lifebelt when outside his cabin at all times. The route between America and Europe had characteristics very different from others, said Colonel Bates. It was not only the declining fortunes of Cunard's passenger business which threatened the fleet of which the QUEEN ELIZABETH was still the flagship. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: In November 1942, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was involved in an incident that still remains the subject of much speculation. An alternative was serving in the Merchant Navy, and the prospect of earning 2 a week in the forces, or being well paid in the merchant service proved to be a one-sided choice for many youngsters. It was an hour before fire fighting tugs arrived at the scene, and after four hours of futile effort the liner was left to burn herself out. The ship sat like a giant beacon in the middle of Clydebank, visible for miles around. So it was clear that the ships must be fast, strongly built to face North Atlantic weather, and have a sufficient reserve of power to make up any time lost through bad weather. Then, with the same pair of gold scissors that Queen Mary had used to perform the launching ceremony of her namesake, she cut the red, white and blue ribbon which released the bottle of Empire wine to break, just in time, against the new ship's accelerating bow. In New York she found herself moored alongside both Queen Mary and the French Line's Normandie, the only time all three of the world's largest ocean liners were ever berthed together. For records from 1915 you can also search from our dedicated1915 crew lists pagefor online transcriptions of the records from that year search results will include records held at the National Maritime Museum so check the held by information on the page to find out where you can view the original document. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at full speed in the North Atlantic. By 1960 the jets had 70% of the transatlantic business. The purpose of the visit was to enable Queen Elizabeth to present the ship with her personal standard, to be framed and hung in the first-class restaurant. This awe-inspiring warship is capable of carrying up to 40 aircraft. Queen Elizabeth and King George VI are received on board, the QUEEN ELIZABETH by Captain Ford on 28th July 1948, King George VI, Queen Elizabeth and Captain Ford with senior, officers on the starboard bridge wing of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Two fins were fitted on each side of the hull. the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. WebAll surviving agreements and crew lists with their logbooks are held by The National Archives, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. Mildenhall Wilfred Charles. The dock could be emptied of its 180,000 tons of water in four hours. During the five years she had carried 300,000 passengers. A model of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth has sat serenely for the last 15 years, gliding along on its pedestal in a PEM gallery. Very few seem to have been preserved in official archives in the UK, although occasionally a Release (List M) for the whole crew may be found with the crew lists inBT 98. The first, on 28th January in cabin main-deck 93, was extinguished by Southampton Fire Brigade and the second fire, just twenty-four hours later, was discovered in a C-deck cabin. In May 1930, Cunard began to make tentative enquiries about the possibility of dry-docking facilities at Southampton for its two new superliners. Contact them directly to find out more. The Clydebank yard was awarded the contract with a tender of 4,293,000. The RESCUE could not handle the ship on her own and so a second tug was summoned. leaves Southampton on her first ever commercial voyage. Great steps forward were being made in both these fields. WebNew York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1967 to 1962 for NYC (fee-based - at Ancestry) Includes passenger and crew arrival lists (and some departure lists) for vessels that were filed at various ports (such as Binghamton, Buffalo, NYC, Niagara Falls, Oswego, Rochester, Syracuse, and other ports) in the state of New York. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor at the Tail of the Bank off Gourock. Sir Percy Bates stressed that, The NORMANDIE had one edge on the QUEEN MARY in being aesthetically more pleasing through her revolutionary streamlining and lack of visible deck 'clutter'. All this seemingly had no end, but this complacency would be destroyed completely in the 1960s. Queen Elizabeth with Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret. Flt.Lt. Captain Bisset said, after the war, that an explosion was heard, "and we increased to 31 knots without any trouble.". Post War Service: Reconditioned for passenger service. It is comparatively short - a long weekend by the express steamers or six and a half hours by air. The world's three largest liners were together for the first and, as events were to prove, the last time. Following the 1854 Merchant Shipping Act, both the master and seaman had to sign a Certificate of Discharge and Character (E-1) on termination of a voyage. The QUEEN MARY was berthed on the south side of Pier 90, and on the north side of Pier 88 lay the French Line's NORMANDIE. First Armored Infantry Division (15,125 troops, 863 crew). August 2 - 7 First time a complete division was carried on any ship. Her brother, the Hon. On 26th July 1933, King George V and Queen Mary sailed into the new dock in the royal yacht VICTORIA AND ALBERT to perform the opening ceremony. Use the search box in BT 99 to search by name of ship or official number. By converting water tanks, an additional 1,000 tons of fuel, or about one day's comsumption, could be carried. Additional competition in the form of the new UNITED STATES would also be a factor from mid 1952. Click onBT 98to search by date and name of British port where the ship was registered. As well as state-of-the-art weaponry and communications systems, HMS Queen Elizabeth boasts five gyms, a chapel and a medical centre. CPO. Parker Pen Company produced a special edition of 5,000 pens made from material recovered from the wreck, each in a presentation box; today these are highly collectible.[35]. Not until the Elizabeth had sailed on 2nd March 1940 was it considered safe to release them. Experience had shown that once converted to oil burning, these ships could turn round in port in eighteen hours when necessary. This was known as a 'degaussing' coil. This left only Singapore and the QUEEN ELIZABETH would have to make two stops to take on fuel and water on her voyage from New York. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: "How big were the frying pans?" At eleven o'clock that evening Captain Townley opened his sealed orders and the, Towards the end of 1940 additional seamen arrived on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, having travelled from Halifax, N.S. To find a ships official number go to theCrew List Index Project(CLIP) website, which has information about merchant ships from 1855 to 1913, or theMiramar Ship Indexwebsite (subscription required) which lists some categories of merchant and naval ships. For the two meals a day that were provided there were six sittings, each of forty-five minutes. On 16th May 1966, just six weeks after completing her overhaul on the Clyde, the QUEEN ELIZABETH became the first major casualty of the strike and was laid up at Southampton. The fins were retractable into the hull to save fuel in smooth seas and for docking. From there she sailed to Simonstown (Cape Town) where German prisoners of war boarded, heading for internment in the United States. Costing almost twice as much as the, Sir Percy Bates had wisely waited for anticipated developments in boiler design to occur. Lady Assistant Pursers were introduced on the Cunard liners after the, Second World War. You can, however, search for crew lists and agreements using the names of the seamen from 1881, 1891 and 1915 by ships number for all other years (see section 8.4 for more information). WebSearch and download () lists of passengers boarding at UK and Irish ports and travelling to places such as America, Canada, India, New Zealand and Australia between 1890 and 1960 (BT 27) on the findmypast.co.uk website and also on the Ancestry.co.uk website. Whilst in Singapore many of the crew frequented a pub called the, After leaving Singapore the QUEEN ELIZABETH headed for Sydney. Many do not survive at all whilst significant proportions of those that do survive are held at other archives, most notably: The National Archives holds the following proportions of surviving crew lists and agreements after 1861: Local archives took some of the records for the period 1863-1913 (see section 12). The Directors decided that work must stop on No.534 - the QUEEN MARY - at noon on Friday 11th December 1931. She also has the distinction of being the largest-ever riveted ship by gross tonnage. Some 10,000 men could, perhaps, be carried in safety according to the lifeboat and liferaft capacity of the ship, but it was considered that the extra 5,000 men who were carried in summer and not provided for in the life-saving equipment were worth the risk, based on the Elizabeth's existing records of speed and reliability. It occurred one day out of Ceylon and Dr Maguire remembered waking suddenly because the engines were slowing down. Works of art were also renovated by the original artists. But the QUEEN ELIZABETH made only 38 crossings and yet carried 66,000 passengers, giving a average of 1,752. At first it was proposed that work on the, Questions were soon asked in Parliament as to what possible use the two Cunard leviathans could be in wartime. Her secret sailing was under British Government regulations, so as to lessen the danger of being sunk by the Germans. Ships did not have an official number before 1855. The Americans demanded that the QUEEN ELIZABETH be brought up to the new standards of fire protection which would have to include the fitting of additional fire sprinklers and the boxing-in of stairways that could otherwise act as deadly draught tunnels in the event of fire. Crew lists for ships on foreign voyages (Schedule C) This argument was buttressed by the statement that the British Government charged the United States for transporting American troops in the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Steam locomotives delivered the steel plates, but lighter items were brought in by horse-drawn lorries. 1951onwards The GG Archives is the work and passion of two people, Paul Gjenvick, a professional archivist, and Evelyne Gjenvick, a curator. Queen Elizabeth launches the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The Cammell Laird tender had been 4,683,000. There was a great rumpus and the yacht owner was traced. The continuing popularity of the 'Queens' was shown by the fact that they carried 110,800 passengers between them in 1960. A temporary electrical fault had developed with the Elizabeth's whistle control gear and she left Southampton in a silence that only added to the almost furtive feeling of the departure. 10, RMS Queen Elizabeth, The Beautiful Lady. Originally vetoing the idea of allowing her portrait to be hung in the ship when the liner was launched, Queen Elizabeth had now relented. In 1951 the 'Queens' sailed from Southampton every 15 or 17 days, but the 1952 schedules show each liner sailing everyfourteen days, enabling fifteen round voyages to be made between May and October compared with just eleven in 1951. In the early morning fog of 28th November 1968, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton for the last time. At eleven o'clock that evening Captain Townley opened his sealed orders and the Elizabeth's destination was at last known - New York. This would also free the fitting-out berth which was urgently needed for the DUKE OF YORK. Many local archives hold the records relating to their local ports. On 28th July 1948 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, accompanied by their younger daughter Princess Margaret Rose, were received on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, the flagship of Britain's merchant fleet. Mildenhall Wilfred Charles. With these improvements, Cunard intended to keep the ship in operation until at least the mid-1970s. After several crossings with Joey on board, the crew began to grumble that the weather seemed to have taken a turn for the worse. With Japan and the United States entering the war after the debacle of Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was laid up at Sydney for seven weeks. Early in July 1936 Stephen Piggot (the managing director of John Brown) wrote to Sir Percy Bates saying that Yard No.535 had been reserved for the new ship. In May 1962 the Cunard Line announced that, for the first time ever, the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be going cruising. The new fire regulations (that Cunard had not been able to afford) were incorporated, bringing the ship into line with the stringent standards required by the United States. The prominent square ventilation cowls on the Mary were also dispensed with on the new ship; fans of a newer design were installed inside the ship. In late 1968, Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Elizabeth Corporation, with 15% of the company controlled by a group of Philadelphia businessmen and 85% retained by Cunard. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. Seaman Lornie Peter Barnard. It is estimated that around 4050% of the wreck was still on the seabed. However, to stop the QUEEN ELIZABETH would take considerable time. It read: "She is the last agency of truly comfortable and agreeable travel the world will ever know, since she will never be replaced on any comparable scale of sumptuousness.". They begin to appear amongst the records from 1852 onwards; many have been destroyed; usually only those recording a birth or death have survived. However, Commodore Bisset was not happy with the location of the quay alongside which the Elizabeth was berthed and considered it too exposed should a strong south-east wind blow up; the resulting swell would cause the ship to range back and forth, possibly breaking her moorings. Cunard's finances were in a very strong state whilst those of White Star were very poor. WebThe RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. Cunard had warned the new buyers against carrying passengers and would have nothing to do with the bookings, but nevertheless carried the blame in the eyes of the disgruntled passengers. At a boat drill on 27th February the assembled crew were told of Churchill's order that the ship was to leave British waters. , to stop the QUEEN MARY and the captain identified the ship was the QUEEN.! 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