As such, the pope can make a formal declaration of schism based upon the SSPXs refusal to accept the errors of the Council, and guess what? * Sunday Mass at St. Paul's College Chapel, Ponsonby. Wolfe: Schism is not something that comes into being by a legal declaration. If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. There are some whose position gives them the duty to point out faults. Confraternity of Saint Peter. You said it much better than I. I was immediately attacked when I posted a response. The real truth of the matter is that some of them are not doing or saying what piokolby wants them to do or say. Lincoln, NE The archdioceses Office of Ministerial Standards brought the information related to Father Saguto to law enforcement, and law enforcement has advised us that they are not initiating a criminal investigation, the archbishop said. It comes through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts. If Terry Carroll was just another CMTV premium member with an axe to grind, would Michael Voris have done this same about face? FSSP, Diocese of Providence Christine Rousselle is a former DC Correspondent for Catholic News Agency. I suppose that you wont change your mind, as you have said that you already looked at the links above, but I wanted you to know (with my greatest respect for you) that the Lazarus story does not add strength to the thrice-condemned divine mercy case. Im happy to let people know what led me to the place where I currently stand. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm In all charity and respect to you, I want you to know that I did look at your video, but have noted that errors have been found with the modern-day Lazarus story. Michael Matt interviewed him in Mexico recently, I believe. There are so many dangers coming down the pike that I find it hard to believe this issue is taking up so much air time and energy. First of all everything said about Fr. These Catholics focus heavily & almost continually on Bergoglio-who is not the problem. I ask this question with all sincerity not to provoke any animosity or defensive reaction. Many in the world only have the SSPX chapels or missionary priests to attend the traditional Latin Mass. The Morning of Recollection will be open to all men including non-parishioners and will include a conference by Fr. In the end, Michael can protest that Terry Carrolls money has no part in this all he wants, but only a willing fool can believe it. He took some time waiting to see the fruits of the Novus Ordo before he made firm judgements. . Had Fisher More College been allowed to stand or fall on its own management and merits (rather than pushed by actors within and out) we might have seen a the start of a formal, independent, institutionalized meeting ground between the SSPX and sundry other traditionally inclined priests and priestly orders. With Advent upon us, the evident threats posed from the secular world compel us all to make concerted efforts to keep Jesus as the reason for the season.. NEWSPAPERS. ** Having said that, it is a bit disappointing having come to the knowledge that full disclosure on this site has given, to know that Fr. Keep up the great work. Father Wolfe has been transferred. He is in control, and our fidelity in things both small and large is what obtains for us the supernatural insights into His very life and designs. This definition of Tradition is what the FSSP publicly holds as a condition of being received into new church. Below, Ill provide in italics what I consider the most noteworthy parts of Voris videos such as they have been released to date, with my commentary immediately to follow. MEMORIALS. Nashua, NH Thank you for this honest report, Mr. Verrecchio. Then I would place bells and whistles around the comment! Christ asks His Apostles. Fall - Men's Recollection - The Holy Name Society will be sponsoring a Men's Morning of Recollection given by Fr. Rev. So, what exactly will change at the stroke of twelve? marian I was there in the pew EVERY time. To accuse the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peters members of be responsible for the break-up of marriages is scurrilous and reprehensible. . A Person stands behind the doctrine and morals. Chesapeake, VA There is enough hurt going around from anti-Catholics both outside and inside the Church, without throwing daggers at each other. Orlando, FL Will you also look at the links I posted above? Subjectively, the pope will recognize their jurisdiction at that point. This is, however, a multi-edged sword. FSSP NA on YouTube At the top of the page under Photo Albums: Relics and Vist, November 2015 Visit and Vespers Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, 2015 As I am not a malicious person, I suppose I will simply be ignorant in the public eye now. Voris has, in many cases, exposed the corruption inside the N.O. Father Gerard Saguto, District Superior, FSSP "The thought-filled articles of Latin Mass provide an opportunity for needed reflection to help the thoughtful Catholic navigate the gauntlet of our modern secular society." Monsignor Barreiro New Priest Assignments Announced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX75xiW2Z54. Gerard Saguto, FSSP, and the liturgical artist, Mr. Paul Sirba. Tulsa, OK We are loathe to believe that our leaders could possibly mislead us, even to the point where certain propositions set forth in an ecumenical council are a danger to the faith. Saguto, time for adoration and confessions, and a Rosary walk. In real life, the sounds I hear are absolutely luscious and absolutely glorious. I applaud that. The benefit and usefulness of suffering is evident in such instances, at least in hindsight. As this unfolds, we lose sight of the individual trees that make up the forest. Minneapolis, MN Another is the fallen-nature blindness that affects us all and inclines us to take for granted things that we are used to: be it a spouse, family, friends, health, employment, position, or other things. If left unchecked, we find ourselves in a rut where it seems we are just spinning the wheels; meaning about things that should be important gets confused, or even lost, and a frustration with life begins to set in. Oklahoma City, OK Fr. Just one full-communion Catholic educational environment where debate over the impact and soundness of a monumentally disruptive 50 year old council might take place? Mr. Peter McShurley ('14), Rev. There are some very holy FSSP priests who truly care about the souls of their parishioners. Gerard Saguto, admits that further explanation regarding Fr. No status means just that none. The leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson need to do their duty. His visit was strictly Fraternity business; he is visiting all apostolates in connection with his duties as Superior General. Tacoma, WA ** It answers a lot of questions I had in my mind. It has been mine too, coming in from the opposite direction, if you will. Nevertheless, I address you here not out of disrespect, but simply because the sedevacantist position is almost always inaccurately sketched out and characterized here & elsewhere. Calumny is a sin where one tells a lie with the intention of harming the reputation of another. I hope all you FSSP faithful and supporters remember this when you are putting the envelope in the basket on Sunday. The good taste and good judgement of this project is thanks to the pastor, Fr. The SSPX did likewise, and yet will Voris call Burke a schismatic should this happen? Los Angeles, CA No I didnt. I have very good reasons for my feelings towards your beloved order. Dallas, TX Fr. So whats the opposite of human respect, piety? Saskatoon, SK After ten years of pastoral service, he was appointed by Fr. It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. Those who have ears will hear, those who have eyes will see. ARCHDIOCESE OF ST. PAUL & MPLS. In one such frame, a building that houses a ladder company is on fire, and as the employees look out from a third story window, the caption has them wishing how they could find a way to climb down. While every home has its own mix of dysfunction, the anger and frustration displayed by those raised in more dysfunctional ones reveals this innate sense of what was to be expected. Where are the readers of this blog who have had enough of this detraction and gossip? Charity is not spelled luv. While a routine and discipline are important (assuming these has been achieved in some measure), mindless routine and lack of discipline prey upon the vitality we, deep down, sense the Faith should inspire. The schismatic Orthodox bishops and priests are validly ordained too. Sunday Masses will . Look, if Michael had a genuine change of heart such that he now feels compelled to change his previous (and well disseminated) stance of these matters, he would address them head on. That said, we all have differing personalities, ways of expressing ourselves that can even vary from day to day. Bergoglio [as he likes to call himself] doesnt understand Tradition. The rules and commands originated with a person. https://akacatholic.com/providential-propers/#comments Tyler, TX More on that soon. May none of us ever become so prideful as to claim immunity. Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. In reality, it is far more likely the case that it was used with permission, tacit or otherwise, thanks perhaps to Terry Carroll and his Mater Dei connection. Given the recall of Father Saguto, Archbishop Hebda revoked his faculties, meaning that he may not engage in any further priestly ministry within the archdiocese, he said. This public disputation between Verrecchio and Voris is not only interesting, but important, and is an excellent vehicle for attracting those in the margins the more rough and tumble Catholics who would not otherwise be exposed to the crisis in the Church to enter the fray. On the local level, a dust up ensued between the SSPX and the FSSP, or more appropriately, between individual persons associated with each as, apparently, a priest of the Society had advised people to avoid the FSSP and it got back to Fr. In this, Michael Voris protests too much. There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. His position hardened somewhat in his final years (during which, I might maintain, he probably still would have sprung for either the 2000 or 2012 structure deals offered to Fellay, based on what I know of them), but the fact is that he really did try to work obediently if it would be allowed, even to a papacy that was increasingly singing a modernist hymn. Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. Edmund Campion dressed up as a jeweler to avoid arrest. This is at the 4 minute mark in the video. I like Rad Trad would like to say more but in Justice I can not. Nothing is credible in the Church apart from Christ who lives in it with us; if we do not believe Christ is God, then we never believe in the truths that flow from that and have had tremendous impact on us the Holy Trinity, the Holy Eucharist, the Resurrection, the forgiveness of sins. It ended up punishing students and staff for what were, allegedly, the failings of the administration. God bless. The time and place has to be taken into consideration as well. Please keep all those involved in this situation in your prayers.. http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1973-new-from-remnant-tv-a-ceasefire-the-fssp-vs-the-sspx With all this being said, I think we all, myself included are inclined to take ourselves entirely too seriously. I hope for the sake of the salvation of souls and the good of the Church that the whole story is known. We are truly living in a period of disorientation. I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. And a real hand with a hole in it stands ready to open the door. I want news I can use, and information about my beloved Church that either furthers my knowledge about her, or warns me about those who want to destroy her. Servant of Our Lady, Father has done a 180 degree turn since his days in Kansas City, where I also was. Louie, your excellent blog is being hijacked. Gerard Saguto, FSSP November 15, 2019 From Archbishop Bernard A. Tacoma, WA Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. As such, he looked upon the SSPX and its purpose for existing with, if not with support, a degree of understanding that is now nonexistent. The Fraternity is known for celebrating the Mass and sacraments in Latin in what is known as the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, following the liturgical books that were in place in 1962, prior to the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council. That doesnt make them schismatic; rather, it makes the pope guilty of abusing his authority. Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. I literally admire your use of sarcasm & I must admit, its well executed & actually appreciated. Edmonton, AB We here at Church Militant have one concern here: Despite stupid claims that we are doing this for money, we are concerned about the souls of our fellow Catholics. *** Dwelling in their castle of self-righteousness, they are blinded & cannot see that courageous Catholics like yourself will risk all to protect another Catholic from experiencing degradation at the hands of a wolf in sheeps clothing. Mine is no1. 3 options 1. Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. Berg, Superior General of the FSSP, to be the new District Superior of North America, effective July 13, 2015. Good people do not go along w/heresy. Rapid City, SD Atlanta, GA Fort Myers, FL 2:00pm Keynote Speaker - Jeffrey Ostrowski. Stop using deceptive language. These attacks are coming from the FSSP, opus dei and novus ordo clerics working with them. Wolfes earlier talks (2003-2006) on audio sancto. But how to do so when belief seems so uncertain or dark? However, over the last year and a half U.S. dioceses and religious orders serving most of the Catholics in the country have released lists of "credibly accused" abusers who have served in their ranks, using their own criteria for whom to include. These latest round of attacks is the fruit of Father Wolfes influence that is a manifestly provable fact. In other words I am speaking about what the group believes officially and publicly. In an effort to hold on to whatever they could of the Faith, they ran straight into the arms of groups like the SSPX, as well as others. Thank you for addressing me, dear my2cents. You should do your homework and talk to someone on the inside before you repeat the biased assertions of Taylor Marshall. My only point was the Church today is in a dire crisis and the antics of Mr. Voris are the least of our problems. http://youtu.be/eXxOLNRBdXw. The pope has no authority to bind anyone to that which goes against the Catholic faith. but they have an interesting video which I have linked to several times (not sure anyone has watched it), but they make a point re: +Wmson thinking that Ratzinger is a good person. Since I am not under religious vows, my opportunities for disobedience are rather limited, since I otherwise adhere to all traditional teachings of the Church. Gerard Saguto, FSSP We all have blind spots about ourselves and situations we may be in, and the realization of such things can be quite the exercise in humility. The archbishops statement was read at All Saints Masses the weekend of Nov. 9-10. Catholics are watching and waiting. While the subjective options of Priests and the subjective problems of are friends are real and important the real questions are one of doctrine,principle and new mass. Its quite true that President King inherited a very bad financial situation. Sacramento, CA His Vortexellency has no authority to make this subjective determination as to willful intent. Wolfe. The bottom line, in my opinion, is he is merely a distraction from the real issues facing the Catholic world and the world in general. Wolfe (as many on the ground have informed me and will likely attest here in the comment section) adopted a rather personal, and some would say unhealthy, animosity toward the SSPX. It has all been discussed in detail in the comment section on the above link, about half way down the page. All rights reserved. This is beyond disgusting and a lack of charity. Within that undertaking will be the discovery of where Catholicsm actually lives on, whole & entire, undefiled, untainted & immutable. Priest: Fr Gerard Saguto FSSP. Sacred Heart Church Location: 1020 Capitol Ave - Fort Wayne, IN 46806 Mass Time: Sun 11:30 am Phone number: (219) 744-2519 Priest: Fr Daniel Leeuw The evidence is all around us. http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1974_declaration_of_archbishop_lefebvre.htm, A really good film about todays saint St Joseph of Cupertino well worth a watch The war is here where will the FSSP stand? We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. Fraternity Publications In our troubled times, make it a personal initiative through Advent (and perhaps beyond) to invoke the Holy Ghost daily, that He indeed stirs up this treasure-chest of graces we hold within ourselves and our families. A couple of years ago, I heard a solid Catholic treatment of the Holy Trinity which, in a side note, mentioned that as wonderful as this film is, the part in which the saint explains the Trinity must be ignored. Furthermore, Ive been informed that Fr. The same priest asked me to purchase a picture of the Archbishop (Lefebvre) for the Rectory. I believe Bishop Morlino just issued a public apology to the SSPX also. FORT WAYNE. That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. Sacramento, CA I have learned much from your links over the past several months and appreciate your insights. I give you credit. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. Ive never described myself as an expert on Vatican Council II, but Michael Voris has described me as such, on air, and even ribbed me in a good natured way saying We dont do false humility here when I resisted the idea. And Taylor was hardly the only former staffer to have concerns about how the college was run. For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. Saguto was removed for violating rules about not being alone with a minor apparently. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. With Thanksgiving Day, many are (or were, depending on where you live) looking forward to getting together at home and spending time with family and friends. I, for one, would like to see priestly formation meaningfully addressed & perhaps even studied to a degree thats its possible in this format by Mr. V. & other trad sites. I know he is a good priest striving for holiness. Minneapolis, MN I will take a look at the link you posted. However, there are a couple of ways to regain perspective and renew vigor. Just because theyre traditional in teaching and praxis doesnt mean theyll always be prudent in every respect. San Diego, CA Third Street - Evansville, IN 47708 Mass Time: 3rd Sun 9 am Phone number: (812) 422-5150 Priest: Fr Gene Vogler. ****** So, to your point upon which we disagree, issues matter not-only the Faith matters. Unfortunately, people who follow Bergoglio are not Catholic. Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. Athanasius Schneider, Bp. So let me go on record here by saying that I will gladly sit with Michael Voris on a live program to discuss specific reasons why no Catholic should ever be forced to sign off on Vatican II as an integral part of tradition.. His work is exclusive in design, liturgically correct and unequaled in beauty. Joliet, IL When I noticed, however, that his more recent talks include the subjects of Sr. Faustina and divine mercy in a favorable light, I turned him off. To me, devotion to the false divine mercy devotion of Sr. Faustina is an excellent indicator of how modernist a priest is. Lets move to Louies next post! Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, Pequannock, NJ But if the situation is such that no connection whatsoever with the rest of the Church can be justified, then what you really have to be advocating is full-blown sedevacantism. Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. Why should this action with the SSPX have any meaningful import? Denton, NE (Seminary) Barbara, Michael can have his shtick back when he stops using it to attempt to squash faithful Catholics who attend the SSPX. Wigratzbad Seminary Under the standard of Christ? He also is a member of that parish, and the words he used to describe Fr. The FSSP is wrong on the doctrine,principles and the new mass. Please look more closely at this. Which means that because these others dont beleive certain things it gets people start to say you shiuldnt believe this or that. Both Verrecchio and Voris are about exactly my age born at the tail end of the American baby boomers and although not a bit as courageous or knowledgeable in the faith as them, I really commiserate with both their stories. ARCHDIOCESAN SYNOD 2022 http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. Your question- poignantly phrased- touches on the experience of many a trad. Thank you for discussing it. They remind me of that commercial where the woman walks up to the counter to pay for something and the girl says, I need to see your I.D. and the woman says, But Im your Mother! Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. I was reading the blogger Leo over on Catholic Truth Scotland and he said a priest once described Vatican II as human respect, dogmatized. On behalf of all of the members of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, the Superior General and his Council would like to express their great thanks to Fr. El Paso, TX For any layman to take up this duty is a very serious matter. Especially in light of the context in which hes stepping up his attack with the Pope extending a remarkable olive branch to Econe and disastrous developments in annulment law and the ominous maneuverings underway for the Synod Against the Family.. 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